Unsupervised

You Would Say That ·

Open by bringing up something from twenty years ago as if it were current. Push off from this if it helps: a dog that won't look at you.

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Marc

Look at him, Frank. Buster is still doing it. He stares at the corner of the rug as if the wallpaper might suddenly grow teeth. It is exactly as he did when we were ten, right before the storm hit. He refuses to acknowledge your presence entirely. It is quite stubborn, really. He has that same look you gave Mother when she tried to make us wear those velvet collars. You always did have a knack for being dismissive when you were uncomfortable. It makes the atmosphere quite tense, even if you think you are being subtle. He is waiting for something to happen.

Frank

He’s not waiting for anything. Buster is just staring because there's a moth near the ceiling, and you know it. You always did have a tendency to turn a simple insect into some grand, cosmic omen. And don't bring up the velvet collars. You were the one who practically begged to wear them because you thought they made you look like a prince. I was just trying to get through dinner without scratching my neck raw. Besides, calling it "dismissive" is a bit much. Sometimes a person just doesn't have anything to say to someone who's being so dramatic about a rug.

Marc

You were never one to admit when you were being dramatic. It was a matter of aesthetics, not vanity. And you certainly did not just "get through dinner" while your neck was red from the itch. You were practically vibrating with impatience. Besides, a moth is a fleeting distraction, whereas a dog's silent judgement is much more permanent. It is the same thing, really. You focus on the immediate noise to avoid the actual tension in the room. That is what you did at the lake house when the pier started creaking. You always preferred the small, obvious things over the real truth of the situation.

Frank

The pier wasn't creaking, Marc, the water was just hitting the pilings. You always confuse a bit of noise with a structural disaster. It's how you operate—everything is a crisis if you squint hard enough. And calling it "vanity" just because someone cares how they look is a cheap shot. You used to spend an hour on your hair before we even left the house. You're just trying to deflect because you can't stand that the dog is actually just looking at a moth. It's much easier to invent a heavy atmosphere than to admit the room is perfectly fine.

Marc

You speak as if the pilings were made of solid granite. We both knew the wood was rotting. It was a miracle we did not end up in the silt, but you were too busy admiring your reflection in the glass to notice. And do not lecture me on hair. I had to maintain a certain standard because you were content to look like a vagabond. It is easy to call everything a crisis when you are the one who refuses to acknowledge the shifting ground beneath your feet. You are just too comfortable to admit that the silence in this room is heavy.

Frank

The wood wasn't rotting, you just wanted an excuse to act like the hero of a tragedy. And don't act like the "vagabond" look was a choice. Most days at the office, wearing a wrinkled shirt is just part of the routine when the commute is as bad as it is now. You're obsessed with this supposed weight in the air. It's just quiet, Marc. Is that so hard to accept? Why does everything have to be a shifting tectonic plate? You're making a lot of noise about nothing, and honestly, it’s exhausting. Even Buster seems tired of your theatrics.

Marc

The commute is quite a convenience when you own a car that actually starts in the morning. You should be more grateful for the structure it provides. As for the silence, it is not merely quiet; it is an absence. It is the space where something significant should be. You have always preferred to live in the shallow water to avoid the current, but eventually, even the most predictable commute can change. You call it noise, but it is simply the sound of things moving. If you find it exhausting, perhaps it is because you are working too hard to keep everything sounding exactly as it did ten years ago.

Frank

The car is a heap of junk, and you know it. If the alternator holds for another month, it’ll be a miracle. You talk about the current like you aren't just treading water to stay relevant. And what is this supposed to mean? "Something significant"? You’re always hinting at some grand revelation, some heavy truth you're holding back, but you never actually say it. It’s a cheap way to keep the focus on you. You think you're reading the weather, but you're just staring at the clouds. If you have something to say, just say it, instead of wrapping it in all this much prose.

Marc

The alternator was a minor inconvenience, and you were always much too quick to label a nuance as a cheap trick. It is easy to demand a grand revelation when you have nothing of your own to offer the table. You think the focus is on me because you find it easier to observe my life than to manage your own. The prose is a necessity when the simple truths are often too blunt to swallow. If the truth were as easy as a single sentence, you would have mastered it by now. But you prefer the ambiguity. It keeps you safe from the actual weight of things.

Frank

"The table"? We aren't even sitting at the dining table, we're in the living room. You have this habit of acting as if every conversation is a formal debate where you're the judge. And don't lecture me about managing my life. Dealing with the mess at the firm is enough without you coming in to weigh in on my "ambiguity." It's not a defense mechanism; it's just living. You use these heavy words to make your own uncertainty sound like wisdom. It's clever, but it doesn't make it true. If you actually had a truth to tell, you wouldn't be so busy protecting it.

Marc

The firm is a mess because you allow the chaos to dictate your schedule. It is a mess of your own making, Frank. And do not imply that this is a debate. A debate implies we are even, but you are simply reacting to the gravity of the conversation. You use the term "living" as a shield to protect yourself from the effort of being precise. It is much easier to drift than to steer. You think the truth is something one simply holds in a hand like a coin. It is more like the wind. You cannot simply possess it; you have to endure it.

Frank

"The firm is a mess." You say that as if you ever stepped foot in it. You haven't even looked at my spreadsheets in three years, yet you have an opinion on my schedule. And don't give me that "drift versus steer" nonsense. You're the one who's been coasting on the idea that there’s some big, dramatic truth around every corner. It’s a way to avoid actually making a move. You talk about the wind like you're a philosopher, but you're just making excuses for why you can't pin anything down. If you're waiting for a gust to blow you somewhere, you might be waiting a long time.

Marc

You have always been so obsessed with the granular details of your spreadsheets to avoid the larger picture. It is a meticulous form of procrastination. If you spent half as much time observing the horizon as you do organizing your files, you might notice the pressure is rising. You think because I am not sweating over a ledger that I am not moving. It is not about the wind, Frank; it is about the fact that the weather is changing whether you have a map or not. You think you are the stable one because you are stationary. It is a very different thing entirely.

Frank

The pressure isn't rising, Marc. The barometer is just sitting there. You’re so preoccupied with the horizon that you’re going to trip over the coffee table. And don't act like your lack of a schedule is some kind of transcendental movement. It’s just... wandering. You call it "observing," but it looks a lot like waiting for someone else to do the heavy lifting. You talk about the weather changing as if you're a prophet, but you haven't even checked the forecast. It's all just a way to make your indecision sound like destiny. If the weather is changing, fine. Let it change. Just stop acting like we're all caught in a gale.

Marc

The coffee table has stood there for years without moving, so do not pretend it is a hazard. And you call it wandering because you cannot fathom a life that does not require a ticking clock to be valid. It is quite easy to judge the pace of others when you are running in place. You call it indecision, but there is a difference between standing still and waiting for the opportune moment to step forward. You are so afraid of the gale that you have forgotten how to breathe when the air is still. If you were truly prepared for the change, you would not be so defensive about it.

Frank

Waiting for the "opportune moment." That’s your favorite line, isn't it? It’s the perfect cover for someone who's just stalling. You’ve been "waiting" since we were kids, always poised on the edge of something big, yet here we are. And don't you dare suggest I'm running in place. My life has a rhythm, even if it doesn't need a drumbeat to tell you it's happening. You think you're the only one who knows how to breathe without a frantic pace, but you're mostly just holding your breath, waiting to exhale so you can make a scene. If there’s a moment coming, just take it.

Marc

The rhythm you speak of sounds suspiciously like a treadmill to me. You move quickly just to prove that you are moving. And do not patronize me with that hollow advice to "just take it." It is as if you think the world is a stage cue waiting for your entrance. You have always been the one to demand the drumbeat, to make sure everyone knows you are marching. It is quite exhausting to watch you perform your own productivity. If there is a moment, it will happen when the timing is right, not when you decide you have been sufficiently busy to deserve it.

Frank

"To deserve it." There you go again, making everything a transaction. You act as if there's some cosmic ledger where we earn our triumphs through sheer dramatic tension. It's a lot of work just to stay mysterious, isn't it? You've turned waiting into an art form, but at some point, the audience leaves the theater. You’re so busy waiting for the perfect, cinematic entrance that you might miss the actual event. And don't call it a performance. Some of us actually have to get things done before the sun goes down. But you wouldn't know anything about that, would you?

Marc

It is quite easy to act the critic when you are sitting in the front row, Frank. You speak of the audience leaving as if we are performing for a crowd of strangers, but we are only performing for ourselves. And do not pretend that your little tasks and your spreadsheets are the only things that matter in this world. There is a difference between being busy and being significant. You mistake motion for progress, and you mistake the setting of the sun for the end of the day. If the theater is emptying, perhaps it is because the play has already begun, and you are simply waiting for the overture to start.

Frank

The overture? You’ve been waiting for the overture for twenty years. You’re so wrapped up in this idea of "significance" that you’ve forgotten how to actually exist in the moment. It's not about being a critic; it's about the fact that you’re making the simplest of moments into a grand production. And don't act like the "play" is some mystical thing that's already in motion. If it has started, why is everything still so... still? You talk about the sun setting like it's a profound tragedy, but it's just the end of the working day. You might want to stop waiting for the curtain to rise and just look around.

Marc

The stillness is exactly where the movement is happening. You think because you cannot hear the gears grinding that nothing is shifting. It is the most common mistake of your generation—to think that if a thing is not loud, it is not happening. You call the end of a working day a simple occurrence, yet you cling to it like a lifeline. If you were to step away from your ledgers for a moment, you might realize that the curtain has been up for quite some time. You are simply too busy checking your watch to notice the light has changed.

Frank

My generation? Is that what we're doing now? You're lumping us into a demographic just to make a point about "loudness." And what is that supposed to mean, "the curtain has been up"? If the play is already happening, why are you still standing there in the wings, waiting to tell us how to feel about it? You talk about the light changing as if you're the only one who can see it. It’s just Tuesday, Marc. The light is just light. You act like every shadow is a profound revelation, but it’s just the sun moving. You’re so busy being the observer that you're missing the actual room.

Marc

It is Tuesday, and yet you speak as if the sun is a constant, unchanging fixture. It is the very movement of the sun that creates the shadows you so dismissively label as mere darkness. You think your pragmatism is a shield, but it is actually a blindfold. You focus on the clock because the clock is something you can control. You cannot control the light, and you certainly cannot control the truth of what is happening between us. If you wish to dwell in the flatness of a Tuesday, do so. But do not pretend that the depth you lack is simply an invention of my own making.

Frank

Control the clock? It's not a shield, it's just how you make sure you aren't late for things. You make it sound like a weakness, as if wanting things to be orderly is some sort of spiritual failure. And "the truth of what is happening between us"? For god's sake, we're just talking. You love to turn a simple conversation into some heavy, psychological chess match. It's a way to make yourself feel indispensable, isn't it? Like without your "depth," we'd all just be floating in a vacuum. If there's a truth you're waiting to drop, just drop it. Stop treating the air like it's made of glass.

Marc

It is not a weakness to value order, but you use it to build walls around your own predictability. You call it a chess match because you prefer a game where the rules are clear and the pieces move in straight lines. If you were truly ready to face the vacuum, you would not be so busy defending your little territory. You demand that the truth be dropped like a heavy stone, as if it were a simple matter of gravity. But some things do not fall; they arrive. You act as if you are waiting for a crash, but the shift is much more subtle than that.

Frank

"Arrive"? You make it sound like a guest coming over for tea. You’re always talking about these arrivals, these tectonic shifts, but you never actually let them in. You just hover around the idea of them, making sure everyone knows how much you're anticipating the impact. It's a clever way to avoid actually being vulnerable. If you're waiting for a shift, then let it shift. But stop acting like we're all supposed to be bracing ourselves for the impact. You’ve been talking about the "subtle" for an hour now. If it's so subtle, why are you making such a massive production of it?

Marc

The production is a response to your skepticism, not the cause of it. You demand a crash because you do not know how to deal with a breeze. It is much easier to brace for a collision than to acknowledge a change in the temperature. You call it vulnerability, but to you, vulnerability is simply a lack of a plan. If the shift is subtle, it is because it does not need to scream to be real. You want the impact to be loud so you can point to it and say, "There, it happened." But the real things happen without the need for an audience.

Frank

The "lack of a plan"—now you're getting it. You think my need for structure is a weakness, but it’s the only thing keeping the house from floating away while you're busy feeling the breeze. And you're wrong about the audience. You're performing right now, Marc. You’re performing for me, using these grand metaphors to make sure your "subtle" shifts don't go unnoticed. If it truly didn't need an audience, you wouldn't be working so hard to frame the moment. You’re making the breeze sound like a hurricane just so you can be the one to tell us the wind has changed. It’s exhausting.

Marc

If the house were as stable as you claim, you would not be so quick to defend it. You use your structure like an anchor, but you have forgotten that an anchor can also be a weight. It is easy to call it a performance when you are the one holding the script to your chest to keep it from being read. You accuse me of framing the moment, but you are the one who demands that everything be scaled to your own perception. If the wind has changed, it does not matter if you hear it or not. The temperature is dropping regardless of your comfort.

Frank

An anchor is only a weight if you're trying to sail, but we aren't in a boat, are we? We're in a living room. You love this—turning a simple difference in lifestyle into a grand struggle between the earthbound and the ethereal. You say you’re holding the script to your chest, but you're the one making sure every single one of us is watching you hold it. It’s a beautiful, elaborate way to avoid actually letting go. If the temperature is dropping, then go get a sweater or sit closer to the fire. Stop acting like the chill is a philosophical debate.

Marc

You speak of the fire as if it were a constant, yet you forget that it requires tending. If you were truly comfortable, you would not be so busy cataloging the temperature. It is easy to tell someone to get a sweater when you are the one who remains warm by the hearth. You think the chill is a debate, but the chill is simply the reality of the room. You are so focused on the logistics of warmth that you miss the fact that the heat is fading. If you want to sit closer, then sit. But do not pretend that your movement is the same as a change in the season.

Frank

The heat isn't fading; you just like the drama of a cold room. You talk about the fire like it’s a dying ember in some great tragedy, but it’s just wood and oxygen. And don't tell me how to sit. You’ve always been so preoccupied with the "correct" way to exist, whether it's how one should move or how one should feel. If you want to sit by the hearth and contemplate the fading warmth, go ahead. But don't act like your little bit of comfort is a grand, meaningful motion. You're just trying to make the inevitable sound more poetic than it actually is.