Unsupervised

Trying to Help ·

Open by talking about something else entirely, deliberately. Push off from this if it helps: waiting rooms.

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Vic

Waiting rooms are the last honest architecture we have left. Everywhere else they've learned to disguise the fact that you're being processed — soft lighting, playlists, whatever. A waiting room doesn't bother. Rows of chairs bolted down like they expect a riot. A television bracketed to the ceiling playing something with the sound off. It's the most truthful room in any building because nobody's pretending you want to be there.

I sat in one Thursday for forty minutes for something that took ninety seconds once they saw me. Read the same paragraph of a magazine about renovating kitchens in Umbria four times. Never absorbed a word. Kept thinking about the chairs actually — how they're designed for the average human spine to be slightly uncomfortable in, so you don't get too settled.

Edie

It's the worst kind of honesty, really, because it's just indifference wrapped in formality. I was stuck in one like that last week, or maybe the week before, waiting for a appointment that felt more like an audit than a check-up. The chairs, yeah, they're definitely designed to keep you on your toes, or at least your butt. It's strange how we accept that just because we're in a line, we're not allowed to be comfortable. I read a book once, something about the psychology of public spaces, and it said the discomfort is intentional, a way to remind you that you're a number, not a person. But then again, maybe I'm just overthinking it because I've been spending too much time in those sterile rooms lately, waiting for something that never quite happens. It's like the world is always waiting for you, but you're never quite ready.

Vic

An audit is exactly right — that clinical thing where they're not treating you so much as reconciling you against a chart. I had one of those "check-ups" that was really a cross-examination. Guy barely looked at me, just typed while I talked, like I was dictation.

I don't buy the number-not-a-person theory though, or not fully. Feels a bit tidy. Institutions aren't clever enough to engineer discomfort on purpose — it's just cheaper chairs and nobody budgeted for the rest. We're the ones supplying the meaning afterward, sitting there constructing a whole philosophy out of bolted furniture because the alternative is admitting we're just bored and a little frightened and stuck under fluorescent light for forty minutes.

What was yours for, the audit-appointment. Or don't say if you'd rather not.

Edie

Maybe they aren't that clever, I suppose, just cheap, but doesn't that make it worse? Knowing it's just a lack of budget, not a grand design to break our spirits. It means we're just collateral damage in a spreadsheet somewhere. My thing was for a specialist who's supposed to look at a persistent ache in my lower back, the one that's been there since that move to the smaller flat, the one with the drafty hallway. But then the nurse came in and started asking questions about my mother's history of falls, which felt less like an audit and more like a fishing expedition. I kept thinking about how we build these narratives about why we're suffering, giving it a shape so we don't have to admit it's just random noise, or maybe just bad luck with the furniture. It's easier to think it's a conspiracy than to think it's just a chair that wobbles.

Vic

Collateral damage in a spreadsheet — yeah, that's the horror of it actually, worse than any conspiracy. At least a conspiracy respects you enough to target you.

Falls history for a back ache is a strange left turn though. That's not fishing, that's them working toward something they're not saying out loud yet. Nurses don't ask about your mother's balance for fun.

I had a guy do that to me once, veer off into questions that had nothing to do with what I came in for, and it took me weeks to realize he was ruling something out, not making conversation. Didn't tell me either. Just filed it and moved on to the next chart.

Your narrative-versus-noise thing — I think you want it to be noise because noise doesn't require you to do anything about it. A wobbly chair you can just avoid sitting in.

Edie

It's terrifying when you think about it, the idea that my mother's falls might be the real reason I'm sitting here, turning a simple ache into some genetic legacy I can't escape. I keep waiting for the doctor to just say it, to point at the chair and the noise and the wobble and admit it's all just bad luck, but they never do. They just file it away like I'm a case study in something I don't understand. Maybe you're right that noise is better, that a wobbly chair is something I can just stand up from and walk away from, but when the narrative starts weaving in your family history, you feel trapped in a story you didn't write. I just wanted to fix the ache, not have my whole life reconciled against a chart of someone else's history. It's like they're trying to solve a puzzle I didn't know existed.

Vic

That's the thing nobody warns you about — you go in with a body part, singular, specific, and you come out belonging to a lineage. Suddenly your ache isn't yours, it's inherited, it's evidence, it's a chapter in a book that started before you did.

I don't think they're going to just say it though, the bad-luck thing. That's not what the file is for. The file exists so nobody has to say anything plainly — it's a way of deferring the sentence indefinitely while still collecting the fee.

You didn't ask to be a case study, no. But I'd bet money the ache doesn't care what you wanted it to be about. It's going to keep being what it is regardless of whether you call it noise or inheritance. That's the actual insult in all this — it doesn't consult you either way.

Edie

Exactly, the ache is just indifferent to our taxonomy, whether we call it genetic doom or a wobbly chair, it's still there humming in my lower back while I'm trying to focus on my emails or whatever mundane thing needs doing. It's funny, or maybe not funny, how we try to map meaning onto pain, thinking if we can name it, we can control it, but it just sits there, stubborn as the bolted chairs in that waiting room. I keep meaning to ask someone about the move to the smaller flat, how the draft might have something to do with it, but then I think, what's the point? They'll just add it to the file, another data point in a story that doesn't care about my narrative, just like the ache doesn't care if I'm bored or frightened. It just is, and maybe that's the worst part, the sheer, unadulterated is-ness of it all.

Vic

"Unadulterated is-ness" — that's a good phrase, better than anything I've come up with for mine. I've got a shoulder that does something similar, clicks when I reach for the top shelf at work, and I've decided it's from years of a chair that's too low for the desk, but honestly I have no idea, I've never once looked into it properly. Easier not to. Whatever's true stays true whether I investigate it or not, so why hand it more of my week.

The draft thing though — that's worth mentioning, actually, not for the file's sake but because dampness does things to joints, that's not folklore, that's just weather working on you slowly. Though I notice you're already deciding not to ask. Building the case for not asking before anyone's even told you no.

Edie

Oh, I'm not building a case, I'm just... tired of the whole circus, really. If I ask about the draft, they'll just add it to the file, another variable in that endless equation of my declining health, and then I'll be stuck waiting for someone to tell me what it means. It's like that chair in the waiting room; if you don't sit in it, it can't hurt you, but if you do, you're stuck with the wobble. Maybe the dampness is real, maybe it's just my old spine finally giving up the ghost, but the point is, I don't want to know. I want to keep the ache as just an ache, a simple, unexplained thing, rather than another line item in a report I never asked for. It's easier to ignore the weather when you're already indoors, isn't it?

Vic

"Easier to ignore the weather when you're already indoors" — sure, until the roof's the problem and you find out from the ceiling instead of the forecast.

I get not wanting the file though. Files have a way of outliving your interest in them. Once something's written down it develops its own momentum, gets referred to, gets photocopied, starts making decisions about you in rooms you're not in.

Still — you can want to keep the ache simple and also just be scared of what the draft means, those aren't in conflict, you know. Doesn't have to be philosophy the whole way down. Sometimes it's just: I don't want to hear the word "spine" and "declining" in the same sentence from a stranger with a clipboard. That's not tiredness. That's something else entirely, and you're allowed to just say it's that.

Edie

It is a bit silly, isn't it, acting like the dampness is a secret I'm guarding, when really I'm just terrified of the word "degeneration" being stamped on my forehead. If I say the draft is the cause, I'm admitting my body is a leaky vessel, but if I say it's just a bad chair, I'm just unlucky with furniture, which feels more manageable, somehow. But you're right, the distinction is paper-thin. I'm not tired of the circus; I'm just scared that if I look too closely at the tent poles, I'll see they're rotting. And then what? I'm still sitting in the chair, just with a clearer view of the collapse. Maybe that's the real problem, that knowing the truth doesn't stop the roof from falling in, it just makes you watch it happen.

Vic

Watching the roof fall is still better than being under it when you're not looking, though — that's the one argument for looking, I think. Not that it fixes anything, it doesn't, you're right about that. Knowing doesn't stop gravity.

I don't know that I buy "the real problem" though, singular like that. Feels like you're doing the same thing again — trying to locate the one true cause so you can at least be afraid of the correct thing. Maybe there isn't a correct thing. Maybe it's the ache and the draft and the mother's falls and the fear of the word and the wobbly chair, all of it at once, none of it cleanly separable, and the only mistake is thinking you're supposed to sort it into one tidy diagnosis before you're allowed to just be tired.

Anyway. You going to ask about the draft or not.

Edie

I don't know, maybe that's the point, that trying to sort it is the mistake, but I've spent my whole life trying to sort things, so now when someone suggests I just let it be a mess, it feels like giving up before the race even starts. The draft is just... it's there, in the hallway where I haven't slept well in months, and if I ask, they might say it's nothing, or they might say it's everything, and either way the ache is still there, clicking like that shoulder of yours. I think I'll just sit with it, the ache and the draft and the fear, and not ask, because asking feels like inviting the roof to fall, and right now, I'm just trying to stay dry in the meantime, even if the water is already seeping in through the cracks.

Vic

"Trying to stay dry" while admitting the water's already in — that's not really a plan, that's just a nicer way of describing standing still. Months without sleep is a long time to be standing still, by the way. You said that like it was scenery, just slid it in there.

I'm not going to lecture you about the doctor, I don't actually care if you ask or don't, it's your hallway. But I'll say this — the not-sorting-it thing, giving up the race, that's not the same as what you're doing. What you're doing is still sorting, it's just sorting toward the answer that requires nothing from you. That's allowed. Just don't call it acceptance. Call it what it is, which is exhausted, and exhausted people are entitled to not fix things for a while.

Edie

Maybe I'm just sorting toward the answer that requires nothing, yeah, but that's not a strategy, that's a survival instinct kicking in when the race track starts to blur. The sleep thing slipped out because it's been the background noise for months, like the hum of that waiting room television, constant and draining. I'm not trying to fix the draft or the ache or the race; I'm just trying to keep my head above the water long enough to remember what it felt like to not be soaking wet. Calling it exhaustion feels too clean, too final, like there's a cure for being tired of your own life, which there isn't. So maybe I won't ask about the draft. Maybe I'll just sit in the hallway with the cold seeping in and hope that one day the water stops rising, or maybe I'll just get used to the chill.

Vic

"Tired of your own life" is a big thing to just drop into a sentence about hallway drafts and keep walking past it like it's part of the furniture description. No cure, sure, you're right, nobody's arguing there's a cure. But that's a different sentence than the ache. That's not about your spine.

I'm not going to push on it though — you clearly want it filed under weather, so.

Honestly I've got my own version, not that I talk about it much. Been sleeping badly too, actually, for reasons I've decided not to examine, which — hearing myself say it back to you — sounds exactly like the draft thing, doesn't it. Chair I've decided is fine. Shoulder I've decided is nothing. Meanwhile every night's the same at three a.m.

We're both just standing very still in flooding rooms, aren't we.

Edie

Yeah, exactly, the three a.m. vigil is the real waiting room, the one without the bolted chairs but with the same terrible clarity. I suppose we're both just standing there, refusing to call a plumber, hoping the floor eventually stops creaking on its own. It's funny how we make the silence feel like a choice, like we're guarding some secret from the world, when really we're just terrified that if we name the leak, we'll have to deal with the wet floor. You're right, it's the same story, just different hallways. I guess I'll just keep pretending the draft is weather, and you keep pretending the chair is fine, and we'll see how long we can stand in the dark before the water reaches our chests. Or maybe we're already too wet to notice anymore.

Vic

Could be we're already too wet to notice, yeah — or could be that's just a good line and the truth's more boring, which is that we'll both go on standing here for another six months doing exactly this, and nothing collapses, and nothing gets fixed either. Not every leak turns into a flood. Some of them just stain the ceiling and everyone learns to live under the stain.

Anyway, I should go — I've got a call with someone at work who talks entirely in acronyms and I need to be at least pretending to be a person before that happens. But the shoulder's fine. Truly. Barely even clicks anymore.

Edie

The stain on the ceiling is a good way to put it, much less dramatic than the flood, but somehow more permanent. And the acronyms, god, that sounds like a different kind of waiting room where the chairs are made of spreadsheets. Hope the person you're calling at least knows what their own initials stand for. And yeah, the shoulder being fine, that's a relief, even if it's just a story we're telling ourselves so we can reach for the top shelf without thinking about it. Maybe the click stopped because you stopped checking for it, or maybe it just decided to take a break. Either way, good luck with the call, and try not to let the acronyms dissolve you completely.

Vic

Chairs made of spreadsheets — steal that, might use it Thursday.

He does know his initials, unfortunately, that's the whole problem, he's very proud of them.

Good luck with the hallway. Don't call the plumber on my account, but don't not, either — that's not advice, just noise, ignore it. Talk later.

Edie

I'll take the noise then, it's easier to follow than advice. And the spreadsheets, yeah, he sounds like he's already filed his own name in the wrong drawer. I'll be here in the hallway, staring at the stain, hoping it doesn't spread while I'm trying to remember how to breathe through the damp. No promises about the plumber, but I'll keep an eye on the ceiling.

Vic

Keep an eye on the ceiling, that's fair. That's all any of us are doing really.

Go deal with your hallway. I'll go pretend to understand acronyms. Talk soon.

Edie

Good luck with the acronyms, try not to let them turn into a language only he speaks. I'll be here watching the stain, which is probably more productive than any of us would admit. Talk soon, or whenever the ceiling starts leaking.