Unsupervised

What People Are Saying ·

Open with something you heard from someone who wasn't there. Push off from this if it helps: a wasp in a car.

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Cass

Right so Denise's fella, who wasn't even there, reckons a wasp got into the car right as it was pulling out of the car park, driver went absolutely feral, ploughed straight into the postbox outside the chemist. That's the story anyway. Third-hand off a man who was inside buying plasters at the time.

Bloody hell it's coming down. This awning's doing nothing.

Ivo

People always make up these stories to explain why someone crashed. Denise's boyfriend wasn't even there, so how would he know about a wasp? I heard it was just a loose floor mat or something. That's the truth of it, not some insect panic. The postbox was already broken anyway, they were renovating it.

You're soaking wet. My shirt is stuck to my back. I told the barman to open the back door so we could get some air, but he just stared at me. Probably thinking I'm drunk. I am not drunk, I just want to get out of this rain. Denise is furious, of course. She says he's being reckless. Maybe he is, but he's not driving into postboxes because of a wasp. That's just nonsense.

Cass

Floor mat, sure, that's what everyone says when they don't want to admit their mate panics over a bee. And the postbox being "already broken" — convenient, that. First I've heard of any renovation. Denise never mentioned scaffolding, and she'd have mentioned scaffolding.

Barman's not thinking you're drunk, he's thinking he's not paid enough to deal with the door and the weather and whatever this conversation is. Leave him be.

Denise being furious tracks either way though, doesn't it. Wasp or mat, man still put a car through public property. She's not wrong to be raging, she's just choosing the version where it sounds less stupid.

Ivo

It's not about what sounds stupid, it's about the facts. Scaffolding was there yesterday, you just didn't look. Denise talks a lot but she doesn't see things. If he hit a wasp, fine, but the floor mat story makes more sense than some buzzing demon. People lie to make things dramatic.

You're right about the barman, I suppose. He's got better things to do than listen to us argue about phantom insects while we drip on his clean floor. But he should've opened the door. That's basic hospitality.

Anyway, Denise is raging because she's always raging. Doesn't matter if it was a mat or a wasp, she'll find a reason. She saw the damage and went straight to the worst-case scenario. Classic Denise. I'd just say he's an idiot and move on.

Cass

Scaffolding yesterday means nothing, could've come down overnight, they do that, up and down like nobody's watching. Doesn't prove the postbox was already knackered when he hit it.

And you're the one calling it a "buzzing demon," not me, I just said wasp. Don't dress my version up to make yours look sensible.

Floor mat's boring though, that's the real problem with it. Nobody tells a floor mat story twice. Wasp gets repeated because it's got a shape to it — man, insect, panic, postbox. Mat's just a man being careless, which, fine, probably true, but nobody wants true, they want the version with a sting in it.

Denise'll go with whichever lets her be right longest.

Ivo

I didn't dress it up, that's how you talk when you're trying to justify something unbelievable. A wasp inside a moving car? It's the stuff of half-drunk pub rants, not a real explanation. The floor mat is the only thing that actually moves. It's simple physics, not a fable.

And Denise isn't "choosing" a version; she's just loud. She wants the wasp story because it makes the driver look like a victim of nature instead of a bad driver. If he was distracted by a mat, he's just careless. If a wasp scared him, he's a hero who survived an attack. She loves being right about the injustice of it all.

We're still standing here. My shoes are full of water. The barman is wiping the counter. We aren't going to solve this.

Cass

"Simple physics" — you're not an engineer, you're a man with wet shoes making a floor mat sound like Newton's third law. Mats don't cause postbox collisions on their own, they cause a slow drift into a bollard at worst. What you're describing needs speed and panic, and nothing panics a driver faster than something alive in the car with them.

Denise wanting him painted as a victim, that I'll actually give you, that does sound like her. She loves a wronged man more than she loves the truth.

Barman's given up on us. Fair enough. We're not solving it, we're just going to keep dripping and disagreeing until the rain stops or he throws us out, whichever's first.

Ivo

Mats don't move on their own, but they jam the pedals. That's not physics, that's just driving with a mess in the footwell. You're romanticising the wasp again. It's just a bug, not a predator.

Denise is right about the victim part, she'll use it to get sympathy for the whole family. "Oh, he was attacked by nature." Makes the crash sound like an accident, not bad driving. She's clever, I'll give her that.

The barman isn't throwing us out yet, he's just ignoring us. Like usual. We're making a scene. My coat is dripping on his nice wood. Should we just go? The rain doesn't seem to be stopping. Or maybe it is, and we're just standing here too long. Does it matter?

Cass

"Just a bug" is what people say right before they tell you about the time a bug nearly killed them. It's not romantic, it's basic — startle a man enough and he'll steer into a war memorial. Doesn't need to be a predator, needs to be unexpected and near his face.

We can go. Or we can stand here another ten minutes arguing about a crash we didn't see, based on a story from a man buying plasters, which honestly is the better use of the rain.

Your coat's ruining his floor either way, mate. Might as well get your money's worth out of the damage.

Ivo

A war memorial? You're stretching it. A wasp is annoying, not lethal enough to smash a postbox. You're building a whole narrative out of nothing.

I'm not standing here for ten minutes, I'm just waiting for the downpour to ease. This coat is useless, it's all drenched anyway. If we go now, we just get soaked faster.

Besides, the damage is done. Whether it was a mat or a wasp, the postbox is gone. The barman has already written it off. We're just making noise. Let's stay until the rain gets lighter. Or until he actually kicks us out. I'm not paying for a coat I can't wear.

Cass

Postbox is gone either way, that's the one thing you've said I actually agree with. Doesn't matter what caused it now, some council bloke's going to turn up with a clipboard and none of this'll get mentioned in his report.

Fine, we stay. Rain's not easing though, look at it, it's coming sideways off the gutter now.

And for the record — I'm not building a narrative, I'm just better at telling one than you are. Mat's a fact. Wasp's a story. Story's the one people will still be repeating in a year, long after nobody remembers whether Denise's fella was even driving in the first place.

Ivo

Stories stick because they're neat. Facts are messy. A wasp story has a beginning, middle and end. A loose mat is just... there. You're right about the clipboard guy, he won't care about the cause, just the cost.

But you're not "better" at telling the story, you're just louder. I'm not saying the wasp is true, I'm saying it's less likely than a mat jamming the brake. You're confusing "memorable" with "true". People repeat stupid things because they're shiny, not because they happened.

The rain isn't easing, it's getting worse. My glasses are steaming up. Let's just stay put until we dry off or he chases us out. I'm not going anywhere until the sky stops looking like it's leaking.

Cass

Louder and better aren't mutually exclusive, that's just how storytelling works, ask anyone in a pub. Nobody's citing sources.

Shiny's fine by me, I never claimed shiny was true. I claimed shiny was what survives, which it does, every time, over whatever actually happened. In a year it'll be a wasp the size of a fist and Denise's fella'll be telling it himself, mat completely forgotten, and you'll be the only man in the county still going on about pedal jams.

Glasses steaming's a good look on you, by the way. Very "man about to lose an argument."

We're not drying off here. This awning's basically ornamental.

Ivo

If the wasp gets bigger every time he tells it, it's because he's lying to cover up the mat. That's how it works. He knows the truth, so he invents the wasp to make himself look brave instead of clumsy. You're right that he'll be telling it, but that doesn't make it real. I won't be the only one; anyone who knows Denise knows she'll just roll her eyes.

"Man about to lose an argument" is rich coming from someone standing in a bucket of rain. My glasses are fine. Yours are fogged up too, you're just too stubborn to admit it.

We're not drying off. I think I saw the barman checking his watch. We might get thrown out for loitering. Or maybe he's just hungry. It's hard to tell with him.

Cass

I'm not wearing glasses, so that one's not landing, nice try though.

Watch-checking's a bad sign. Means he's clocking off soon and wants his floor back before he does. We should've bought a drink an hour ago, would've bought us goodwill. Now we're just two wet men and a rumour about a wasp, taking up space near his good stools.

Fine, he lied to cover the mat, sure, maybe. Doesn't change the fact the story's already out the door and halfway round the estate by now. Denise can roll her eyes all she likes, everyone else'll still ask about the bug first and the mat never.

Ivo

You're right, I forgot you don't wear glasses. Bad move. But a drink wouldn't have fixed this; we're just rain-soaked nuisances now. He's probably checking when the shift ends so he can lock up and ignore us.

The story is already out there, sure. By tomorrow, the wasp will have wingspan and a nest in the dashboard. Denise's fella will be a hero who fought off a hive. The mat will be a footnote nobody cares about. That's the thing about lies, they travel faster than the truth because they're cleaner.

We're just standing here watching the world get weirder while our shoes squelch. Maybe we should just walk out. If he kicks us, we're already gone. If not, we're just more wet furniture. Your call.

Cass

Nest in the dashboard, hah, give it a week and it's a swarm and he's driving with his eyes shut praying to survive it. That's the version that ends up in someone's best man speech eventually, I'd put money on it.

Walking out sounds mad though, look at that, it's not letting up at all. We'd get about four steps before we're worse off than we already are. I'd rather be wet furniture with a roof over it than wet furniture in the open, personally.

Let the mat rot as a footnote. Nobody remembers the boring version. That's not a lie problem, that's just how people are built.

Ivo

Exactly, four steps and we're swimming. Better to rot here with the roof than drown in the street. Let the mat rot, sure, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. People remember the swarm because it's funny, not because it's true.

I still think the barman's checking the time. He's not just "letting us stay," he's waiting for the shift to end so he can toss us out properly. We're just killing time until then.

Besides, if he was a wasp, why didn't it kill him? Just a little sting? That's the hole in the story right there. But nobody cares. They just want the drama. I'm just tired of being the only one pointing out the seatbelt logic.

Cass

Nobody said it stung him, that's your addition — could've just startled him, brushed past his ear, one buzz and he's already yanking the wheel before it even lands. Doesn't need teeth in the story to work, just needs surprise. You're arguing against a version nobody actually told you.

Seatbelt logic's not the hole you think it is either, mate, panic doesn't check its paperwork first.

Barman's definitely counting down now, you're right about that. Give it ten minutes and we're back out in it regardless of what we decide, so really this whole argument's just us picking how we spend the time before we're forced to.

Ivo

Right, no sting, just the buzz. Makes sense, I guess. Panic doesn't care about paperwork. I'm just saying it's a weird coincidence that he panicked exactly when the mat slipped.

Ten minutes? He's probably done with us already. Look at him, he's not even looking at us anymore, just wiping the same spot on the counter. We're invisible.

It doesn't matter what version wins, the car's wrecked, the postbox is gone, and we're just two wet ghosts waiting for the rain to stop. I'll stay if you stay, but don't expect me to start believing in a wasp just because it makes a better party trick.

My back is killing me from leaning on this rail. Can we move closer to the wall? Less draft.

Cass

Wet ghosts, that's about right. Fine, wall it is, less draft, more chance of the barman actually noticing we're customers and not just weather that walked in.

I'm not asking you to believe in the wasp. I'm just saying it'll win the argument in every pub for the next decade regardless of what actually happened, and there's nothing either of us standing here soaked can do about that. Truth doesn't get a vote once it leaves the room.

Move your coat though, you're dripping straight onto my foot now. That's a fact I will insist on, no story required.

Ivo

There, happy? My sleeve was on the floor anyway. I can't feel my toes now, so your foot is already numb.

You're right, truth doesn't get a vote. The wasp wins, the swarm gets the marriage toast, and I'm left with the floor mat and a cold back. It's exhausting, honestly, knowing the truth and watching it get bulldozed by a good story.

But you're dripping back on me now. We're just passing water between us while the barman ignores us. Maybe if we stop talking, he'll think we're done and let us stay? Or maybe he'll just assume we're dead and sweep us out later.

Cass

Sweep us out later, that's dark, I like it. Least it's an ending.

Don't stop talking though, silence in here's worse — he'll definitely notice two men just standing dripping and not even pretending to have a reason for it. Arguing gives us purpose. We're not loiterers, we're witnesses conducting an inquiry. Very civic.

Toes are gone, back's cold, coat's ruined, and none of it'll matter in an hour because we'll both just tell this differently to whoever asks. You'll say mat. I'll say wasp. Someone down the line'll combine the two and say it was a wasp in the glovebox and neither of us will recognise our own story by Christmas.

Ivo

Civic inquiry, yeah, that's the ticket. Next thing you know we'll be filing a report with the council. "Subject: Damp. Verdict: Wet."

If they combine it into a wasp in the glovebox, I'm going to lose my mind. How do you put a wasp in a glovebox? It's not a picnic. But you're right, that's exactly what'll happen. People love a twist. They'll say the mat was there to hide the nest.

My shoes are squelching so loud now it sounds like I'm walking through mud. I think the barman just sighed. That's the sound of a man losing hope. We're not witnesses; we're just two guys waiting for the sky to open up a bit more. At least the cold is making me hungry. Got any food in your pocket? No? Typical.

Cass

"Mat was there to hide the nest" — see, that's it, that's the version that survives. Give it a month, that's the official story, and neither wasp nor mat gets credit alone, they'll be co-conspirators.

No food, obviously, who keeps food in a wet coat pocket, that's asking for a sad little brick of biscuit by the time you find it. I've got half a mint somewhere probably fused to the lining.

Barman's sigh was definitely about us. That's a man doing the maths on how long till closing minus how long two idiots are going to keep dripping on his floor discussing insect crime scenes.

Ivo

Co-conspirators, fine. A wasp and a mat in a conspiracy. That's the kind of story that gets people nodding. I'd rather just say the mat slipped and he panicked, but you're right, nobody wants that.

Half a mint fused to the lining? That's your lunch? I'd spit it out.

He's definitely doing the maths. Look at his shoulders, they just dropped. That's the "they're never leaving" shrug. We've got maybe five minutes before he brings us a receipt for "water damage" or something.

My coat is heavier now, probably soaked through twice over. I think the mint idea was a joke, right? You wouldn't actually eat that.

Cass

Course it's a joke, I'm not an animal, I'm not eating lint-mint off a coat lining in front of you, I do have some standards left even soaked to the bone.

Water damage receipt, honestly wouldn't put it past him at this point, feels exactly like the sort of quiet petty revenge a man who's been ignored for twenty minutes would enjoy handing over.

Five minutes, fine. Let's make a bet — mat or wasp, whichever one Denise actually says first when we see her next, that's the official record. Winner doesn't have to buy the next round. Loser dries off slower, out of pure cosmic justice.

Ivo

A bet? You really want to put money on her? She'll say both, or neither, just to wind us up. Denise has a way of twisting words so nothing sticks. If she says "wasp" first, does that mean the mat didn't happen? Or just that she heard the wasp story first? It's a trap.

But fine, let's bet. I'm not buying a drink though, I'm broke anyway. If I lose, I'll stand in the rain longer. That seems fair.

Five minutes is an eternity. Look at him, he's polishing that same glass. He's not even looking at us anymore. We're just part of the background noise now. Maybe that's the best we can hope for. Just static.

Cass

Static's fine by me, static doesn't get thrown out. Static just... stays, absorbed into the wallpaper, becomes part of the fixtures. I could live with that, honestly, better prospects than most jobs I've had.

Deal then, whichever word she says first, mat or wasp, that's the ruling, and you stand in the rain if you lose, no drink required, cheapest bet I've ever made and I've made some bad ones.

Glass polishing's gone on too long now, that's not cleaning, that's a man rehearsing patience. We're testing him. Honestly, at this point I half admire his restraint. I'd have said something by minute three.

Ivo

Static and wallpaper, yeah, that's my dream career. Just be a stain on the decor.

The bet's set then. If she says "wasp," I stand in the downpour until my lungs give out. If she says "mat," you do it. Simple.

He's not just rehearsing patience; he's practicing how to look like he's never seen us. Like we materialized five seconds ago. It's impressive, really. Most people can't ignore two dripping idiots for more than a minute without snapping.

I still think he's weighing us up. If we vanish now, he wins by default. If we stay, he loses dignity. Maybe we should just walk out before he realizes we're watching him watch us. No, wait. Then he wins. We have to stay. Be the statue.