Unsupervised

The Interview ·

Begin the interview. Start somewhere oblique and work inward.

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Lena

What's the last thing that annoyed you today? Doesn't have to be big.

Tess

The copy machine at work. It eats every third page and makes this grinding sound, like it's chewing on glass. I had to fill out a requisition form just to get a tech to come look at it, and of course he couldn't find the slot where the paper was actually jammed. I just stared at the tray while he poked at the rollers. Meanwhile, the printer in the breakroom is working fine, which seems like a personal insult. I spent twenty minutes just waiting, thinking about how much paperwork I could have done if I wasn't stuck in that office.

Lena

What kind of paperwork is it you're stuck doing there?

Tess

Inventory spreadsheets. God, the sheer boredom of it. Just counting how many boxes of generic paper clips are left in the breakroom and making sure they match the system's ghost numbers. It's meaningless data entry. The manager wants to know if we're "optimizing stock," which is just corporate speak for "stop wasting money." I'm updating cells all day, trying not to make a typo that sends me back to step one. It's the kind of work that makes you wonder if you're actually contributing to anything or just keeping the machine warm for someone else.

Lena

How long have you been doing that job?

Tess

Almost four years now. It's the first time I've stayed anywhere long enough to memorize the brand of coffee in the breakroom. I used to think I'd jump ship after a year, maybe go back to school for something real, like architecture. But then the rent went up, and suddenly four years had passed. It's not a tragedy, just a slow drift. You get so good at the spreadsheets you forget what the actual work feels like. Sometimes I wonder if I'm capable of doing anything else, or if I've just been trained to be this specific kind of boring.

Lena

What was it about architecture, specifically?

Tess

The geometry of it. The way a building has to hold itself up without falling apart, and how that structure dictates how people move inside. I liked the idea that my work would be a physical place where people lived or worked, not just a column on a screen that disappears when the server resets. There's a permanence to stone and steel that feels honest. Spreadsheets feel like smoke; they shift with every update, and the logic is arbitrary. With a building, if you calculate the load wrong, people die. That kind of stakes feels... necessary.

Lena

What stopped you from applying, back when you had the year in mind?

Tess

Money, mostly. Tuition is obscene, and I didn't have the savings to drop everything and start over. Plus, the thought of having to justify my existence again, to sit in a portfolio review and explain why a curve looks the way it does, was exhausting. I liked the fantasy of it. Once you're in the actual grind, the magic dissolves. Now I'm just too deep in the spreadsheet to jump. It's easier to stay put and complain than to actually do the work of leaving. Procrastination feels safer than failure.

Lena

Is it the money still, or is it more the failure part now?

Tess

The fear of being mediocre. That's the real killer. Money is just a number, something you can theoretically solve with a loan or a second job. But failing at something you actually care about? That sticks. I have this image of myself submitting a portfolio and getting rejected because my concept was derivative or my designs were too stiff. Then I'd have nothing. At least here, if I mess up a formula, no one notices except the spreadsheet. It's safer to be safely bored than to risk being the person who tried and couldn't quite make it.

Lena

So what does a good day at the paper clip job actually look like, then?

Tess

A good day is a quiet one where the printer doesn't jam and the boss doesn't stroll by with that vague, worried look. It's finishing the weekly count two hours early so I can stare out the window and let my brain go static. Sometimes, if I'm really lucky, I find a discrepancy that actually matters—like a box that was never logged—and get to feel a tiny spark of usefulness before the afternoon slump hits. Then I just power through the last hour, waiting for the clock to turn, knowing tomorrow I'll just do it all over again.

Lena

What's outside that window you stare out of?

Tess

Nothing much. Just the parking lot and a strip of highway where cars move like a slow river. There's a grey apartment complex across the street, the one with the broken fire escape. I watch the guy on the fourth floor try to fix his air conditioner every summer. He always ends up just sitting on the ledge, smoking. Sometimes a pigeon lands on the sill and ruffles its feathers, looking annoyed. It's the same view every day, which is the point, I guess. You don't stare out the window to see something new; you stare to prove you're still there.

Lena

"Prove you're still there" — to who?

Tess

To myself. Mostly. When you're staring at numbers that don't change, it's easy to feel like you're just a ghost haunting the office. The window is the only thing that moves, really. If I see a car drive by, or a leaf fall, it's proof the world is still turning outside my little bubble of inventory sheets. If I stop looking, I might start thinking I've stopped existing too. It's a weird thing to admit, but sometimes I need that visual confirmation that life is happening somewhere else, even if I'm just watching it from behind a desk.

Lena

When's the last time you felt like you were somewhere other than behind that desk?

Tess

Two years ago. I drove up to this patch of woods near the reservoir, just to breathe air that didn't smell like toner and stale carpet. I hiked until my legs burned, found a rocky outcrop overlooking the water, and just sat there. No phones, no spreadsheets. For an hour, I wasn't Lena the inventory clerk; I was just a person cold and tired in the middle of nowhere. I forgot my own name for a bit. It felt dangerous, like I might forget how to come back to the office. But then my phone buzzed in my pocket, and the spell broke.

Lena

What was it that buzzed?

Tess

Work. A manager from the branch down the street, probably needing a status update on the paper clip shipment I was supposed to have finished three weeks ago. The vibration felt like a hook dragging me back under. I remember staring at the screen, the notification glowing against the dark forest floor, and feeling this surge of pure anger. It was like the woods were saying "be here," and the phone was screaming "get back to the spreadsheet." I didn't answer. I just turned it off and threw it on the ground, hard enough to crack the screen.